Ubercart & eBay Turbo Lister Functionality

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Does anyone know how (or if it's possible) to integrate eBay's Turbo Lister (a listing tool) into Ubercart? Or how I could have a similar functionality in Ubercart?

For some background info - I am relatively new to Ubercart, and to creating online stores in general. My client has used eBay extensively and is now building her own shop, but very much likes how Turbo Lister does things.

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I don't know exactly what you mean by "integrate. . Turbo Lister." Please give a more detailed explanation. Does she want to create and manage eBay listings from within Ubercart? Does she want Ubercart's back end (order processing / fulfillment) to look more like Turbo Lister? What particular Turbo Lister features does she want in Ubercart?

I am working on an eBay module which will allow you to generate eBay listings from Ubercart products and bring eBay transactions into your Ubercart orders page in order to manage order fulfillment. This project is in the very early stages and will not be usable for several months.

Another option is to export product data from Ubercart and then import it into Turbo Lister. This method will also take some serious work since the data exported by Ubercart is not what Turbo Lister is expecting, but it could be made to work.

Peace,
Andy

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Hey, thanks for your reply, Andy! Smiling

When I wrote my initial post, I was unsure exactly what she was wanting, except that it have the same features as Turbo Lister. Having now talked with her a little more, I'm a lot clearer on what she's really wanting, which actually doesn't have as much to do with Turbo Lister and inputting the product data but more with the store as a whole.

Basically, she's moving from eBay to having her own site and wants her store to work just like eBay does, including the ability to auction as well as buy right away, have each product be unique (it's a used clothing store), and have each product not only searchable by category but by various attributes like size and style.

What she liked about Turbo Lister is that she could input all the data on one page pretty much, which isn't too different from what Ubercart (and Drupal in general) already does when creating content.

So, perhaps I should start another thread since it isn't really about Turbo Lister anymore and more about getting things to work similarly to eBay?

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Minde,
Whenever I hear a customer say "I want it to work just like x" I cringe. What they mean is "I want all the features I am use to with x minus all the things I don't like plus all the other things I wish x would do." That being said, Ubercart 2.0 for Drupal 6 in currently in beta. It supports auctions. For more details read this: http://drupal.org/project/uc_auction. Other then auctions, I think Ubercart does everything you want out of the box. Oops, I forgot the search by attributes thing. I believe Apachesolr (http://drupal.org/project/apachesolr_ubercart) should do what you want. It is a little difficult to install, but provides some awesome search capability.
Peace,
Andy

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Again, thanks, Andy! Since the auction module is only for Drupal 6, and I'm using Drupal 5 for the store, I can't really use it right now. But I will keep an eye on its development. Fortunately, my client is being fairly flexible and is willing to wait on that feature.

As for the search capabilities, Apachesolr does look interesting, but like you said a little difficult to set up. Would something like Faceted Search (http://drupal.org/project/faceted_search) work with Ubercart?

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"Buy it now" functionality… hmm.

I'm the UC Auction guy. I'm reluctant to work on adding this feature to UC Auction at the moment since it's not something our client needs, and technically UC Auction is being developed on their dime. But I think that's a feature UC Auction is definitely going to have to support in the near future…

But how to implement it… hmm.

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Yes, I think faceted search will work, but they are not kidding when they say it is database intensive. If you have a lot of products or a lot of traffic, you run the risk significant performance issues.
Peace,
Andy

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Yeah, I noticed it said that about the performance. *sigh* And I need to make the site able to grow, which I guess rules out that option.

@ Also Garrett Albright - yes, "buy it now" would be a good functionality to add to the auction module. I think you'd know more about its implementation than I, though.

But, even more than a "buy it now" feature, I'd be happy seeing the auction module working for Drupal 5 in addition to 6. Smiling

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You can always use faceted search and then replace it with Apachesolr later if you have performance issues. If you can you tell me roughly how many products on the site, how much traffic the site gets, and what sort of hosting / database hardware you have, I can give you my best bet of how well faceted search will work for you.
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Andy

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Right now the site is basically purely development, so there are no "real" products on there yet, only test ones. My client wants to have the capability to go into the thousands, though. I'm unsure how much traffic she'll initially get and so I can't really give you any numbers in that regard, but I don't want to underestimate. As for the server, I'm currently hosting the development site on my own server space, so I have a good deal of control over it now. But she wants the ability to move hosts, so I can't count on having it as good as I have it now.

I know, that's not much help at all.

I could start off with faceted search and then move away to something else when traffic goes up... But I'd like to have as much pre-set-up as possible. After all, if my client decides to go with another webmaster (or just take it over herself), or if I suddenly decide to toss all technology out the window and turn ascetic hermit, or if I get struck by lightening or something equally incapacitating, I want the site to be set up so it can function reasonably well without having to go through many major overhauls down the road (provided its purpose remains the same).

After looking around more, do you think that Views, especially using something like the Views Filter Block might work sort of the same way that I want? Of course, going that way might end up being more trouble than just Apachesolr...